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[RUMOR] Paul Thurrott: Xbox 720 is expensive: $500 or $300 for sub model, 5/21 Unveil

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Apparently Microsoft is launching a 99$ Xbox 360 codenamed "Stingray" this November alongside of the Next Xbox.

According to Paul this is because the next Xbox isn't going to offer backwards compatibility for 360 games.

 

He mentions that it's going to be expensive. Apparently around 500$ for a normal unit, or 300$ for a subscription model.

It was also relayed to him that the device does indeed require a constant internet connection to function, although that is better discussed in this dedicated thread.

 

He also mentions that nothing that he has read about the next Xbox sounded negative to him.

 

Props to the guy bringing this up in the other threads

 

 

 

Transcript by Salromano:

 

Originally Posted by Salromano:

"The next Xbox is code-named Durango. And we have talked for a while about this notion that there might be another version of the Xbox that was just aimed at entertainment—a non-gaming device. That device was code-named 'Yumo' and they're not making it. They may make one in the future, but it's not happening this year.

 

"So the new Xbox that comes out this year will just be the Xbox. And I mentioned before they're also going to sell a new Xbox 360 code-named 'Stingray' that will be $99. And you might look at that as two things: backwards compatibility, obviously, suggesting—I don't actually know this for a fact, but based on the fact that they're making one—I don't think that the new Xbox will play 360 games. But that I don't actually know, that I'm guessing. But, the other one is that, $99, that's a real coo price. And so we know that the Xbox 360 does Netflix, Hulu Plus, yada yada yada, and you can make the argument that's kind of a low cost entertainment device, too.

 

"Durango is going to be expensive [laughs], you know $500, $300 for the subscription, that kind of thing, but you know, Blu-ray, blah blah blah, but the thing that interest me, going back and looking at some of the stuff I got a long time ago, it actually says 'must be internet-connected to use' in the notes. And that's all I have, but it does say that.

 

[is that a bad thing?]

 

"I don't know because I don't know what it means. You know, when you look at some of the stories that were coming out this week about, you know, I saw a headline that said something like 'Next Xbox could be okay without an internet connection for as long as 3 minutes' or something like that. I don't even know what that means, so for me, Xbox 360 is almost entirely an online experience. Most of the games I play are multiplayer, where you're playing against other people online. Or you're using it as an entertainment device when you're connected to a service like Netflix or Xbox video, so that is an internet-connected device. In this phrase, it says 'must be internet-connected to use', you know, that suggests that you can't even boot into the UI and play—I don't know, I don't know, I don't have one.

 

"Originally, they were going to announce this thing in April—April 24—now they're going to announce it May 21. We know there are events occuring this year where we're going to learn more about Durango.

 

[And it's a fourth quarter release, right?]

 

"Early November, yeah. E3 is going to occur. BUILD is going to occur in San Francisco in June when they're going to talk about the developer story because it's a Windows 8 device. It's going to have the same, or basically the same, developer tools and developer APIs and all that kind of stuff. So I think there's a lot information to come, but I look at all this stuff that I've seen about Durango and I think, 'it's all positive.' I don't really see any bad news here at all. Like to me, everything I've seen about this is really positive. It's amazing to me that, based on like no information at all, everyone is like freaking out about everything. Aside from this online thing, by the way, the number one question I've gotten from people is, 'What does it look like?' Who gives a sugar what it looks like?

 

"I've actually heard from, by the way not one or two people, several people who've said, 'based on what I've seen, Sony is going to blow them away.' Based on what you've seen? You've seen nothing. What are you talking about? No, but you've seen literally nothing from Microsoft.

 

[i don't think that's even a possibility considering how many people use Xbox LIVE... You're not going to have this mass Xbox audience jumping to Sony.]

 

"The problem Microsoft has has nothing to do with Sony or Nintendo anymore, it's Roku and AppleTV. The market for hardcore video games, the market of people will always buy the next Gears of War game, the next Halo game, the next Call of Duty game, it's fairly finite. It's a decent market, yada yada yada, it's not the market for tablets, it's not the market for smartphones.

 

This is still more rumors but the more you hear about everyone saying the same rumors you have to think that it is bound to be true.

 

No BC and always online (even thought it doesn't bother me that much) plus a $500 price tag definitely make me not want the system now. I can't say I won't ever get it but definitely be low on my list of system to get.

 

Your thoughts?

 

Credits to Milkman from GDD.

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Oh hey look another rumor that makes the new Xbox look bad.

 

I am not trying to defend the system, but the reason these rumors are likely the same is because these types of things are really getting a rise out of them. To be honest, I do think the rumors are true, but the fact it's "leaked" so many times I wouldn't be surprised that many people have concocted well-seeming rumors of their own. I dunno, I've never really seen this many 'rumors' before for one system, it just sorta sets up a red flag.

 

Anyway, to the rumor itself, I don't really know Paul Thurott's sources, so he really could be making all this up to get more views. Then again, the always online and other things have come up so often that he probably doesn't need a reason to lie about any of them.

 

I fully believe it will be an always-on console, and I'm not really surprised it doesn't have BC, since the 360 didn't have it in an *effective* manner. If the Kinect is bundled with the system I see it hitting the 500 dollar mark... although that kind of price point would seriously ruin them at this point.

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Yeah the more I hear about this new console, the worse it's becoming. Every news or rumor they keep throwing at us is making the community question what are they really doing. It's like they don't care for us, but just create something to milk money off of. It's sad consumers will easily be consumed by this madness.

 

This is subscription thing makes it sound like a phone contract or something. Bleh.

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I'm thinking that no matter the price of the new box the ps4 will cost more. So depending on how expensive the new box is the ps4 will probably be more expensive. Don't know why Sony likes to do that but they do...

 

Anyway I say that because I have no interest in Microsoft consoles but they directly affect Sony consoles which I am interested in.

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The way things are sounding, I'm getting happier about my Wii U purchase. Sony has already announced they are screwing loyal PSN customers over, so I wouldn't pay more than $50 for a PS4 at this point. As far as the next Xbox, I'll wait a year or two to see how many break.

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WiiU FTW!

 

Here's my theory, MS is leaking horrible false rumors. This way when they finally announce the console and it has 0 of the negatives that have been talked about for it; People will be on it faster than something fast on something desirable. (It's been a long day, this is all I've got)

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The way things are sounding, I'm getting happier about my Wii U purchase. Sony has already announced they are screwing loyal PSN customers over, so I wouldn't pay more than $50 for a PS4 at this point. As far as the next Xbox, I'll wait a year or two to see how many break.

 

Oh no, what did I miss and how is Sony screwing over loyal PSN customers?

 

I'm going to wait to judge Durango or whatever it will be called until an official announcement is made from Microsoft. As for cost, I fully expect to pay at least $500 for them. New technology is always expensive at launch, one of the downfalls of being an early adopter. I will buy the PS4 at launch but will hold off a bit for Microsoft's next console especially if they launch around the same time.

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WiiU FTW!

 

Here's my theory, MS is leaking horrible false rumors. This way when they finally announce the console and it has 0 of the negatives that have been talked about for it; People will be on it faster than something fast on something desirable. (It's been a long day, this is all I've got)

Now that's funny thanks for making my day!!1

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WiiU FTW!

 

Here's my theory, MS is leaking horrible false rumors. This way when they finally announce the console and it has 0 of the negatives that have been talked about for it; People will be on it faster than something fast on something desirable. (It's been a long day, this is all I've got)

 

At this point it really could be either extreme. Either all the rumors are true or nothing is true at all. But what if somehow they surprise us with this always online. Maybe there are more to it and it isn't what everyone thinks it is (all the negative of it) and it could in the end show us something awesome and make consumer want the next xbox.

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